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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[in this economy? good way to go bankrupt...but then they could always get a bailout!.."L"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 7:04PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[How about a collaboration?  Why can't Dish just enter into an agreement to use TIVO?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[nick]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 7:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[Because TiVo isn't interested, and Echostar is probably somewhat pissed about it anyway.<br><br>TiVo sees itself as the winner of a fight and as a company owed a huge payoff by Echostar who they see as dragging out a court case they feel they were in the right over.<br><br>Dish sees TiVo as a holder of trivial patents that make it impossible to implement something without TiVo's consent.<br><br>Neither side are going to want to collaborate on anything.<br><br>There's a few ways around the poison pill BTW. One is for Echostar to work with other interested parties so 51% of the shares are owned by companies who want TiVo closed down, but of which none own more than 14% of the company. That's a stretch.<br><br>Another is to challenge the poison pill in court, as they're not generally seen as 100% kosher.<br><br>And finally, they can call TiVo's bluff, buy 15% of TiVo, let it go bankrupt, and bid for the assets, which should be considerably less than $7.5B. The assumption TiVo and the author makes is that any hostile takeover would be by a company that wants TiVo in some viable state. If all you're trying to do is destroy the company, a poison pill actually works to your advantage.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[squiggleslash]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 7:37PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[Don't forget to add the link to Davis Freeberg's web site and story. I mean, you guys mentioned Dish going to his website for research and then you don't mention it? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jose Alvear]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 8:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[Squiggles, you should go back and read the poison pill.  If Dish tries to "shut TiVo down" by acquiring more than 15%, TiVo shareholders would have the right to assume 65% control over EchoStar based on their current market cap.  In other words, triggering the pill would get Dish management fired not TiVo.<br><br>You are right about finding five other parties who are willing sellers though which is why I mention the possibility of killing the pill in the post.  The problem with this is though, that you have to have been a shareholder prior to the judgement in order to vote.  While there were a lot of people who sold their shares post judgement, anyone who held prior to judgement is likely a long time TiVo owner and one that probably isn't so fond of Dish.  If you didn't like Dish and had already sold your shares would you vote to make it easier for them to strip out the poison pill?  I doubt it.  Dish could try again in a year or wait 2 years for it to expire, but that's assuming that they can litigate that long.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Davis Freeberg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 7:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[Davis - where are you reading that? All I've read is that buying 15% of TiVo would immediately result in TiVo issuing a $60 per share dividend to all of their shareholders.  What you're proposing isn't in anything I'm reading, and frankly, I don't see how an arrangement could be legally binding on anyone.<br><br>Issuing a $60 a share dividend forces up the share price and leaves TiVo oweing $7.5B to its shareholders, making a takeover phenomenally expensive. That's what makes it a poison pill.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[squiggleslash]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 8:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[This is unfounded speculation. One unknown user visiting a blog for 25 mins is not credible evidence of anything.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[chumley]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 8:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[Exactly. In fact, I happen to be at an Echostar/Dish IP address right now.<br><br>Wait....did me slacking off at work cause all of this speculation?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2009 4:43PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[Check out the press release that summarizes the pill at the very bottom of the document.<br><br>"If a person becomes an Acquiring Person, each Right will entitle its holder to purchase, at the Right's then-current exercise price, a number of common shares of TiVo having a market value at that time of twice the Right's exercise price. Rights held by the Acquiring Person will become void and will not be exercisable to purchase shares at the bargain purchase price. With limited exceptions, an Acquiring Person is defined as a person who acquires 15% or more of the outstanding common stock of TiVo. If TiVo is acquired in a merger or other business combination transaction which has not been approved by the Board of Directors, each Right will entitle its holder to purchase, at the Right's then- current exercise price, a number of the acquiring company's common shares having a market value at that time of twice the Right's exercise price."]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Davis Freeberg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 8:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA["If a person becomes an Acquiring Person, each Right will entitle its holder to purchase, at the Right's then-current exercise price, a number of common shares of TiVo having a market value at that time of twice the Right's exercise price. Rights held by the Acquiring Person will become void and will not be exercisable to purchase shares at the bargain purchase price. With limited exceptions, an Acquiring Person is defined as a person who acquires 15% or more of the outstanding common stock of TiVo. If TiVo is acquired in a merger or other business combination transaction which has not been approved by the Board of Directors, each Right will entitle its holder to purchase, at the Right's then- current exercise price, a number of the acquiring company's common shares having a market value at that time of twice the Right's exercise price."<br><br>That is the classic formulation of a pill - contains both flip-in and flip-over features.  Delaware courts will usually uphold the adoption of a poison pill under the business judgment rule.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rogers]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 10th 2009 8:53PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[The comments here lean to the the idea that DISH is taking a retaliatory stance.  I think the opposite is true.  Dish could acquire TIVO and stop the bickering and patent issues.  They would have the best DVR in the biz.  They could stop the DirecTivo project, or charge a huge premium for it.  It would give DISH a huge Tech advantage with TIVO/Sling in there DVR's.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[AztecPilot]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2009 10:04AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[I totally agree with you]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Heavytoka]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2009 11:25AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Is Dish considering swallowing TiVo's $7.5 billion poison pill?]]></title><link>http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/06/10/is-dish-considering-swallowing-tivos-7-5-billion-poison-pill/</guid><description><![CDATA[Folks are reading two much into the poison pill. As a practical matter it is very difficult to invoke a poison pill. There have been very few cases of a poison pill actually being used. It is really designed to bring the hostile party to the table. If Dish were to offer a 50 - 100% premium to the current share price it would be very difficult for Tivo to not accept the offer.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Zingerhill]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2009 11:16AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>