Linksys discontinues Media Center Extenders, hardly anyone notices

Essentially, manufacturers were hoping that those with loads of media on Windows-based PCs would jump at the chance to get all of that material on their HDTV with the addition of one little box. And in theory, at least, that does sound somewhat attractive. Unfortunately, only a few of these were announced in Denver, and almost all of them suffered from inexcusable delays. By the time they hit the market, all of the buzz generated at the trade show was extinguished, and early reviews were less than positive. It didn't take long to see prices begin to plummet, all while fence sitting companies realized that avoiding this niche would likely be most beneficial to their longevity.
Today, we're seeing Linksys' DMA2100 and DMA2200 listed as "Discontinued" at a number of legitimate e-tailers, and while D-Link's DSM-750 and HP's MediaSmart Connect seem to be hanging around at near-full price, we can't say the same for Samsung's discounted MediaLive Digital Media Adapter. Heck, Niveus Media doesn't even list its Media Center Extender - EDGE as a product on its website anymore. It shouldn't be any real shock that hardly any other companies have jumped in since these first few, and we're having serious doubts about the future of the dedicated MCE. Are you getting the same vibes? Do you think these things could thrive at the right price? Let us know in the poll and comments below!
[Via GeekTonic]
Update: Turns out HP is axing its MediaSmart HDTV / Connect lines as well. It's full statement sent to us is after the break.
HP is discontinuing the MediaSmart TV and MediaSmart Connect lines. As part of HP's ongoing strategy to accelerate the growth of key product categories, improve efficiencies and profitability and continue to drive innovation for its Personal Systems Group, the company made the decision to place its Connected Entertainment and Managed Home product lines into its global Attach Business. The Attach Business develops products and services that supplement and extend the customer experience of HP's core product lines such as the MediaSmart Server. With these changes, there will not be any follow on MediaSmart TV or MediaSmart Connect products in 2009. With the PC at the center of the experience, HP continues to be committed to delivering high-definition, connected entertainment to consumers around the world.























Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Brandon Rollins @ May 18th 2009 10:01AM
Have a 360, that's not really one of the choices.
AndyS @ May 18th 2009 10:11AM
Didn't Ben post this yesterday?
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/16/linksys-discontinues-its-extenders-for-media-center/
AndyS @ May 18th 2009 10:16AM
Oh, I see the poll. I guess that's the difference.
I'm not clear if owning an Xbox 360 puts me as owning an extender in the poll. I'm answering yes.
I did have a Linksys gen 1 extender and used it as an XP Media Center 2005 extender until the wireless went out on it. I just recently took it to be recycled.
I'm trying to decided if I want to build a low hardware spec 7MC as an extender for the bedroom or if I just want another 360. With the way 7MC handles recorded TV on other PCs and even WHS, I might just go that route, but the 360 would be cheaper if I can get all of my media like ripped DVDs into a format that works easily with the extender model.
xemumanic @ May 18th 2009 10:13AM
I used the last one because I own a 360.
Nice to see you thought to have the 'alternative', (ie have a vote where people could comment for themselves) but the 360 is in many ways the flagship extender, you should have had it as a vote option.
However, I will say I did want to get a Linksys with all the price drops, I still might before the weeks' out.
xemumanic @ May 18th 2009 10:15AM
If anything holds me back, its the weak transitions. Good thing Ben made a video of it, that's the thing that irks me about all the other extenders.
UnnDunn @ May 18th 2009 10:24AM
Put me in the camp of owning a 360. But even so, I rarely use the Extender functionality. That may change when I buy a new PC, as I intend to add CableCARD functionality to it and use it as my primary cable receiver.
Entertainment 2.0 @ May 18th 2009 10:48AM
While I can't disagree with the pricing issue, I think there are a few things that don't jive in the article. Number 1, while an extender might be a stand alone box, that box has the potential to replace several others under a TV in your home. Case in point: my sons have a playroom television with a DMA-2100 hooked to it. Since that's tied to a Media Center PC, they have live TV, recorded TV, DVD access, Music (yeah, we have some kids music ripped) and even pictures if they want it. Oh, and with a plugin, they can also watch content from our netflix queue, Hulu programming and other kids shows online.
So with one box, I've replaced a DVD player, Roku Box, DVR, and some sort of music player...not really adding boxes here.
Using a 360 is of course a better solution. Better extender and you get games so again, the pricing is totally off on these boxes. But that's not to say they're worthless. Oh, and mine is wireless. Wonky? Once in awhile, but utterly unreliable? Nope. Working right now and just fine.
xemumanic @ May 18th 2009 11:37AM
There's lots of reasons for a 360 over any other extender.
A 360 arcade is $199, but you get the added gaming/Netflix potential. The gaming is big if you have a kid, or if you're a big kid.
Sure, you can get Netflix with a free plugin, but the 360's Netflix implementation is unmatched.
The menu transitions on the 360 are just as they are on the desktop.
And for HD, the WiFi of the Linksys is nigh-on useless.
There are some downsides too.
But the 360 is kinda noisy (I don't hear it, especially if there's nothing in the DVD drive), and you gotta subscribe to Xbox Live to use Netflix.
A DMA-2200 (the one with a DVD drive) is $150 usually. The 2100, without the DVD, is $100.
But after all the back an forth, if the menu transitions were worked out, maybe in a 'v2.5' extender, I'd get one over a 360. Especially if it were integrated into an HDTV that was otherwise up to snuff in every other way. That'd be a major selling point over a similar HDTV if I was buying.
David S @ May 18th 2009 11:02AM
The lack of codec support is key. Even more important than the transitions (or lack thereof) Call me when I can watch mkvs with embedded subtitles and can swap audio tracks.
Jay @ May 18th 2009 11:11AM
The problem with extenders has always been they do not extend the full mediacenter experience. Everything about them including the Xbox 360 is a compromise.
Lakeonaut @ May 18th 2009 12:18PM
I looked at extenders for months, but finally decided on a DIY HTPC because I couldn't find an extender that did everything I wanted:
- play Apple lossless (ALAC) from iTunes
- play a couple internet radio stations that Squeezebox and others won't play
- Netflix streaming
- Hulu
- etc.
There are a number of devices that do most of these, but ALAC tended to be the deal killer more often than not. I already had a huge commitment to the ALAC format before I figured out that there was little support for it outside of Apple devices. I know I could have converted the files, but I'm happy with the versatility of my HTPC.
dmccall @ May 18th 2009 12:31PM
I just don't see how Microsoft expect people to adopt Media Center over Tivos and other DVRs if there are not affordable, compact ways to extend MC content to the rest of the house. $300 was way too expensive, but I got mine for $70 and think the world of them.
Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO @ May 18th 2009 12:26PM
I've got a 360 and I dont use it with MCE because it doesnt play the codecs I need so I just use TVersity....
solidunit @ May 18th 2009 12:29PM
I use a media center PC and cable card tuners, so extenders are the only way I can watch TV at home. I use the samsung extenders or 360's though. Wouldn't mind buying a linksys one or two for my non-samsung tv's though.
The 360 makes a great extender, HOWEVER it generates a lot of heat and in an enclosed space like a closet, its not really an option. Most of my TV sets have the components hidden away in a closet, so thats why I prefer a dedicated extender (they run silent and don't generate much heat at all).
lindsaypace @ May 18th 2009 12:30PM
Let's see...Had 4 xbox 360 with RROD then a PS3 (took it back after a week). I waited a long time and finally got the Sammy. Amazon took it back a week later with no questions asked. So I ended up just buying a HTPC. No problems now
solidunit @ May 18th 2009 12:33PM
Also, for everyone expecting any device to be the end-all-be-all device that plays hulu, mkv, h264, mkv w/ softsubs, etc etc etc you really should just hook a PC up to your TV.
Big Sam @ May 18th 2009 12:42PM
360. Whichever option that is
FLskydiver @ May 18th 2009 2:26PM
I finally completed the migration of all my music and hundreds of DVDs to my media center PC about a year and a half ago. In my new place, I connected the PC (in my office) to my TV (in the living room) by drilling a little hole in the wall between the two rooms to run wires for the computer's HDMI video out, 5.1 audio out, and RF remote receiver, so that I could use my living room HDTV and audio receiver to watch and listen to media on my PC ... without an extender. I was very happy with this arrangement.
Unfortunately, that's also the same time I went Purple and got DirecTV HD service; so I no longer watch media on the computer at all, since it is all standard def. What a waste of time!
They don't make hard drives big enough yet to ever consider moving my 200 bd's and hd's to the PC yet, dang it.
ohpleaseno @ May 18th 2009 2:58PM
The problem with the Linksys is that it didn't have a fan that sounds like a jet engine. Xbox wins that battle hands down.
blackacex2 @ May 18th 2009 3:06PM
My PS3 does a decent job as a media extender. I wish it had a GUI that was based on album art for music and for some reason it alphabetizes tracks instead of listing them in their proper album order.
Tim @ May 18th 2009 7:26PM
The only way extenders are going to succeed is if those little set-top boxes offer something else. The entire MCE community has been waiting for an affordable Blu-ray player/extender, but so far nothing. The Linksys DVD/extender was the right idea, but nobody really needed another DVD player at that point. The 360 is used because it offers another service in addition to the extender part (gaming).
I don't understand why MS isn't trying harder to partner with more companies to get the extender software out there. It'd be in their best interest - there's a solid user community out there that is constantly becoming frustrated with how little MS seems to be supporting media center. It's a fantastic product, and I hate to see it being ignored like this.
Dave_Wright @ May 18th 2009 9:26PM
As many of these replies point out, the Linksys externders were just that "Extenders" and nothing else. If Media Center was more widely accepted then that would be fine, but with Media Center being mis-understood by the general public and most of whom do not even know that have it on thier PC, just extending to other rooms is not appealing. The remaining extenders offer other options such as games in the case of Xbox360 and access to media content that is on a PC without media center like all of them. These are the hooks for the consumer on those pieces with media center being a bonus.
If Microsoft opened up the technology more and companies added features for multi room like party mode and access to other sources, then the extender would catch on as it would be the means for a multi-room system to operate. While this is posible with the current extenders, the full ease of use needs to be programmed by an integrator and the average consumer puchasing one at a big box retailer would not receive that benefit.
Personally I feel that extenders are great for expanding media center, but you have to be into media center first and the use of the extender in order to understand what it is and purchase one. Problem is that there are other devices out there that extend music and video through out the home in a general sense, and unless the extender can provide more benfit, the public will never understand them.
Jeff @ May 18th 2009 9:24PM
I have two Linksys 2100's and a HP Media Smart Connect. These are pretty good products but could be great if only you could update the codecs, play flash and add plugins (Netflix,Pandora,etc...). A standalone box that does all of that for a couple or three hundred bucks makes a lot more sense than filling up your shelf with components or buying a new TV every couple of years.
thezero4 @ May 19th 2009 12:01AM
I'm also a 360 owner and I would say a good 90% or more of the time on the 360 is in an extender session. But 360 should have been on the list.
RoyB @ May 19th 2009 12:28AM
I've got both a Linksys DMA2100 and DMA2200 that I paid a total of $205 for. Compared to $600 for a pair of HD TiVo's plus the TiVo's $20-26/monthly charge, I'm very happy. I schedule on the PC and it's available on either or both extenders. The TiVo UI is slicker but the recordings are tied to one DVR. I can add storage easily and much cheaper than the TiVo.
calc.exe @ May 19th 2009 4:18PM
I hope someone can find a way to succeed at the dedicated extender business. I have 2 DMA 2100s and have been able to work within their limitations (codecs).
Extenders are what sold me on Media Center -- something the cable box dvr can't do.
Microsoft may need to seed the market at a loss like they did with the xbox. Consider including a free extender with the purchase of a Windows 7 upgrade. Release an extender OS that gets updates from windows update rather than a hardware manufacturer.