http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/ Engadget HD Comments for NBCOlympics.com using Silverlight 3, Smooth Streaming for Winter Olympics video http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/
Silverlight BAD!]]>Apr 20th 2009 2:28PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/Apr 20th 2009 2:31PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/
We need to get the DOJ after MS (sorry, M$) because we need choice in operating systems.
We need to create FF, Opera, Safari, because we need choice in web browsers.
We need to create SageTV, BeyondTV, etc because we need choice in media center applications.
We need iTunes because we need a choice in media players.
We need Open Office because we need choice in office programs.
We need MySQL because we need choice in databases.
We need Blu-Ray because HD DVD is M$' attempt to own the physical disk format.

M$ was foolish for creating .NET, we already had Java.
What was M$ thinking, we don't need Zune, we have iPods.
Sony and Nintendo were doing just fine, then M$ had to force their way into a video game console market.
Silverlight really offers nothing over flash and should never have been started in the first place.]]>Apr 20th 2009 2:55PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/I honestly do not understand your argument. You seem to be supporting Microsoft's right to produce a product that competes with Adobe's flash. Which I agree, they have every right to do. I take issue with the implementation. But you support your argument by mocking other products and the people who support them that complete with Microsoft. So are you for competition, or against it? You can't have it both ways.

Also, are you trying to attribute all of that anti-Microsoft sentiment to me? Because I never said any of those things. I use MS products on 3 of my 4 systems. I have a number of issues with their implementation of Silverlight, which frankly I just don't want to re-type since my first attempt at this post somehow got lost. But to put it succinctly, Netflix was better before they switched to Silverlight. ]]>Apr 20th 2009 4:27PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/
I am not mocking any of those non-Microsoft products. I am mocking the philosophy that many people have where we need fierce competition against any and all products MS makes (I agree, we do need competition), but then when Microsoft makes a product that competes, immediately it is shot down because we already have similar functionality.

I don't care how many MS products you use. You specifically said MS was wrong for wanting to try to compete with Flash ("should never have been started in the first place"), and therefore you are completely and utterly wrong.]]>Apr 20th 2009 5:11PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/
and it really does off alot more stuff beyond that.... flash really needs to overhaul alot of things these days.

plus the less adobe in the world the better... adobe actually makes ms look good in comparison.]]>Apr 20th 2009 2:35PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/
I can update Silverlight from WSUS, roll out the updates to all my managed desktops with no problems.

Flash is a PAIN to update on a large scale (seriously, Adobe.. Local admin required to update flash?) I wish we didn't have a need to install and support it.
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Silverlight isn't actually a bad development platform. If you know WPF and C# you'll get Silverlight although its not strictly .NET. In some ways it is superior to Flex, in some ways it is worse. For example MXML and ActionScript are okay but its a very verbose language compared to C# and lacks multithreading (meaning lots of stupid hacks involving timers). Conversely, the Flex tools are better and it has decent offline support via AIR. The same goes by comparison to JavaFX. On the one hand, the Silverlight tools are better that NetBeans' JavaFX support and it has a UI description language, but then again I could reuse an existing Java code relatively easily since JavaFX extends J2SE 6.0 rather than being some look-a-like subset. Speedwise Flex & Silverlight seem pretty similar to me. I suspect JavaFX might be faster for compiled Java classes but slower for .fx script files.

At the end of the day all these runtimes have strengths and weaknesses, but I don't believe for a second that Microsoft or Silverlight has an interest in protecting platform or browser neutrality. ]]>Apr 21st 2009 8:47AMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/Apr 20th 2009 3:10PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/Apr 20th 2009 4:42PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/Apr 20th 2009 4:58PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/Apr 21st 2009 1:29AMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/
I don't care how many MS products you use. You specifically said MS was wrong for wanting to try to compete with Flash ("should never have been started in the first place"), and therefore you are completely and utterly wrong.]]>Apr 20th 2009 5:10PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2009/04/20/nbcolympics-com-using-silverlight-3-smooth-streaming-for-winter/
To be fair, flash has almost more than 10 year life of development whereas SL is still a newbie, so can't say it's worse than Flash in any way. Yet, i reckon SL 4 will go beyond Flex/flash and become a mature product.

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