SageTV HD Theater review

SageTV
Dedicated media streamers are a dime a dozen these days and then add in all the other devices around the house that can streams pictures, music, and videos to the big screen, and your options gets down right out of hand. So the thing that makes the HD Theater so attractive is the SageTV tie in. If you haven't been keeping up, SageTV is DVR software that might be the De Facto standard of DVR software for geeks. While it doesn't include the snazzy UI that Windows Media Center has, it makes up for it in features. It was the first DVR software to work with the sought after component capture device from Hauppauge; the HD PVR. It features just about every item on any DVR software fan's wish list like built-in placeshifting (think Slingbox), transcoding, and software extenders. Both the server and the client will run on just about every platform out there including; Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows Home Server -- something Windows Media Center fans would die for. And finally it is fully customizable and skinnable. To put it simply, it rocks. One example of what gets us so excited is that you can take an old computer around the house with almost no processing power, throw a couple of HD tuners on it and a big hard disk, then connect the HD Theater to your HDTV in your home theater to let it do all the heavy lifting.
The Good
- Works as as Sage Extender and as a stand-alone streamer.
- Plays every codec we can think of.
- The box is nice and small.
- Its silent.
- Included HDMI cable is very appreciated.
- Front and rear USB ports are a great addition to plug in your own content quickly or permanently.
- Online services are useful, but can't wait for the Hulu support that was demoed at CES.
- Both Dolby Digital and DTS played back great via HDMI from MKV files -- no DTS-HD or TrueHD though.
- Playing media from the USB drive is just as good as playing over the network, useful for those without network connectivity behind the TV.
- The included remote isn't programmable so it can't turn on your TV.
- No built in WiFi or available dongle.
- Had trouble running setup with HDMI, had to switch to component until after the initial setup.
- Shows network share passwords on certain screens, not cool.
- Media browsing isn't snappy, but it isn't slow either.
- More difficult than it should be to switch from extender mode to stand-alone (power cycle required).
- No coax digital output.
- Browsing files with the "imported File browser" if functional, but in no way enjoyable.
- There were like 60 Imported file locations already on the review unit, which made it difficult to find the ones that actually existed. To top it off, deleting them one by one is a tedious affair.
- LEDs are too bright and the network one blinks too much.
- No animated transitions or translucent menus in the user interface.
Conclusion
We fully expect someone to buy this as a media streaming and find themselves drawn to running a full blown multiple room SageTV DVR setup. And overall we have nothing but good things to say about the new SageTV HD theater or SageTV in general. But there is one looming problem that prevents us from switching our own household over. It's one thing makes us feel like we're in high school all over again, a time when the only thing that mattered was our looks. You see as much as we love the features and functionality of the SageTV hardware and software, we can't get past the looks. It is not that it is ugly, in fact for those out there using the fugly interface on a content provider's DVR or even the super dated TiVo UI, it's a step up. But when you compare the entire landscape of PC DVR software, it is hard to ignore the beautiful animated transitions and translucent menus on Vista Media Center. So while we really do appreciate everything that SageTV has to offer, we're just too superficial to make the switch in our own household.






























Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
xraycat @ Feb 6th 2009 2:44PM
Yes that is correct. This feature is commonly known as transcoding, analog to digital conversion or upconversion. All new receivers in the same price range as this, inlcuding the Onkyo 606, Pioneer 1018, Marantz 5003 and Yamaha 663 support this method. The main differences between all of these models is the type of automatic equalization used, number of HDMI inputs and of course power ratings. I just bought the Onkyo 606, LOVE IT!
Robert @ Feb 6th 2009 3:12PM
MKV is not a codec, it's a container format. This is a tech blog concerning Home Theatre stuf, is it not?
Pingles @ Feb 6th 2009 3:12PM
Just here to post that I was a longtime SAGETV user (until we went to HD) and found the software very good and the Company's support of it even better.
Between regular updates and an active, supported forum I wholeheartedly recommend them.
We have been discussing a Media Streamer for our house so we'll have to see how well this box will incorporate into our satellite system.
RickisHomer @ Feb 6th 2009 3:21PM
I've liked SageTV from the first time I've used it.
wayne @ Feb 6th 2009 3:30PM
Not all codecs are supported - audio doesn't seem to work for WMV and dvr-ms files. Not exactly rare file types.
Brent @ Feb 6th 2009 3:44PM
@wayne,
A firmware update for WMV and dvr-ms is in the works
webwalker @ Feb 6th 2009 9:26PM
I find the review complaint about the UI pretty disingenuous; Sage is a framework. The difference with your cableco DVR or your Tivo is that you are STUCK with their interface and their functions, whether you think they're fugly or not.
With Sage, you can either customize the UI yourself, or download dozens of skins or full GUI replacements. Or go whole hog and install plugins that automatically skip commercials, do OSD of your phone's CID, burn DVDs (media files you've recorded are DRM free!) browse the web, get RSS feeds on a screen crawl or integrate with your Home Automation system.
It probably took you longer to compose the sentences complaining about the skeletal UI than it takes download the SageMC GUI extension (a whole 3 minutes). Yeesh.
S4Rs @ Feb 6th 2009 4:30PM
This looks like a cool box and down the road Sage TV might be a viable option for me.
Does this box have 24P playback?
Rick Winkler @ Feb 6th 2009 4:13PM
I love SageTV. No DRM, HD Recording, Multiroom Capable. All of my TVs use it in some form.
Cody @ Feb 6th 2009 4:18PM
SageTV and these extenders is absolutely the perfect setup for home theater geeks.
Mark @ Feb 6th 2009 4:18PM
Will this thing *pass through* DTS-HD and TrueHD?
Brent @ Feb 6th 2009 4:25PM
Mark,
It can play files with TrueHD. For TrueHD the HD Theater extracts the core AC3 stream out of the audio track
kastonie @ Feb 6th 2009 7:22PM
man i misread the article headline and saw SEGA TV HD THEATER REVIEW and i got all excited for a second because i thought it was an article about sega channel coming back....sega channel was awesome back in the day....
Beau @ Feb 6th 2009 11:47PM
Umm gbpvr was first to offer support for the hdpvr, it was even mentioned on engadget as supporting it before it was even released.
Rivertrance @ Feb 6th 2009 11:07PM
Coolest Part of All... It supports the AVCHD (h264+ac3) files I capture with my Hauppauge HD PVR. Now I can record all my fav HDTV shows and Movies from my Comcast DVR onto my PC...and stream them back to the SageTV HD Theater(s) I have installed in my bedroom, office and living room. Does it get any better than this... ??
cheers, -rivertrance.
kompulsive @ Feb 7th 2009 3:12AM
epic fail. i'm keeping my popcorn hour for now.
Harvey Payne @ Feb 8th 2009 8:56AM
If all I want is a media extender that will play my video, photos and music from my PC in the loft, over my LAN connection on my new HD TV in the family room, and given that I have a Canon HF100 that gives me .mts codec when I save it to my PC, what are my options for a media extender other than this device? Since I am interested in using this device in what I understand to be 'standalone' mode, I'm really only looking for the least expensive media extender option that plays .mts files. Looking forward to comments from those who know the products that are out there. Thanks.
paul . @ Mar 25th 2009 2:29AM
Check out the WD HD TV from Western Digital. About 100 bucks. It plays almost everything in standalone mode.
Gaven @ Feb 11th 2009 6:12AM
Hate to say it but SageMC is also fugly compared with Vista Media Center. Saying that you can make better skins your self is not really an answer.
I find the look of SageTV (and the SageMC extension) to be extremely dated and plain. I have though about switching over from Vista media center many many times to get things like PC's as extenders and HDPVR support but Sage really is just too ugly. I tried all of the themes I could find for it but they were all very similar and plain.
If Sage would just wake up and do a GUI refresh I think they would see an influx of new customers.