http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/ Engadget HD Comments for Netflix no longer carrying HD DVDs as of December 15th http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 5:37PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 5:48PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/
Regardless, I will be ok with DVDs for quite a while before I waste money on the other soon-to-be-obsolete HD format.

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Still waiting on the Bourne movies...]]>Nov 13th 2008 6:40PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/
signatures are okay. a sphincter says what if they say something about it.
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I one of them...too preoccupied with other things. Hell, I've got 3 HD DVD rentals on my shelf that have been around for about 3-4 months.]]>Nov 14th 2008 4:26PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 5:49PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 6:18PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/On HD DVD ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ ]]>Nov 13th 2008 6:06PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 6:06PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 6:20PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 6:23PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 8:56PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 14th 2008 8:55AMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 6:51PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/
On a side note, I have always thought that niche markets made since from a business standpoint in order to expand your marketshare, but corporate America has never agreed with that assessment. Oh well...]]>Nov 13th 2008 7:04PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/Nov 13th 2008 7:36PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/
There are almost as many HD DVD players out there (possibly as many, it was around a million in February, and more boxes, including LG's BH200, were sold afterwards) as there are standalone Blu-ray players (1.3 million) at the last count. It's only ever been the PS3 that gave Blu-ray any marketshare. It's safe to say that if, right now, you were to release the same title for both HD DVD and Blu-ray, sales of the HD DVD version would comparable with the Blu-ray version.

But the studios have completely dropped the format. Completely. Universal and Paramount could have continued making HD DVD releases (on top of Blu-ray, for the most part it would have been a simple remultiplexing of the same streams and adding an HDi front-end), but they didn't.

The obsession has been with this idea that somehow Blu-ray will "succeed" if HD DVD fails, and the studios have put enormous effort into making sure HD DVD isn't just six feet under, but beneath the Earth's crust. But what they've achieved is the following:

1. They've backed the wrong format to begin with and made it impossible for any serious chance of a comeback for the working, trouble free, lower cost, more open, sits at the heart of a downloads infrastructure format.
2. They're getting around half the sales they would otherwise do by supporting both formats.
3. They've seriously pissed off anyone who bought an HD DVD player.

Netflix's decision is small potatoes compared to what's happened over all.


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I thought we had data on how many HD-DVD discs sold each week VS Blu-ray and even when HD-DVD had twice as many stand-alones out there Blu-ray outsold in Discs?

If that's the Case, how can you even begin to say HD-DVDs would be selling as much as Blu-rays now that Blu-ray has even more Stand-alone players?

As I recall one of the biggest sellers for HD-DVD was some movie (Transformers) that would be considered by many to be a PS3 crowd title....

Maybe the obsession was really that HD-DVD was actually succeeding, and not just bleeding a company out(Toshiba).

Might want to upgrade your perception to filter out more non-factual data there Squigs.]]>Nov 14th 2008 1:09PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/ If that's the Case, how can you even begin to say HD-DVDs would be selling as much as Blu-rays now that Blu-ray has even more Stand-alone players?

Well I said the figures would be comparable, and that they're currently getting around half the sales they would otherwise do if they were to sell versions now. I stand by both comments, in part because I suspect most HD DVDs would sell better than they would have done pre-discontinuation. There's some evidence to back this up in that surveys since the dropping of the format showed a sharp uptick in HD DVD sales, with many retailers reporting higher sales of HD DVDs than BDs.

The fact remains that HD DVD releases would sell in comparable numbers to Blu-ray right now if the studios bothered. They're more concerned with appearances, that some how the existence of a few HD DVDs of new releases would convince everyone to hold off buying Blu-ray discs.

Even if you decide this isn't the case though, and assume HD DVD would sell in similar proportions to the situation prior to the great HD DVD switch-off, you're still talking about studios getting an extra 50% in sales for not a lot of work on their side. Re-multiplex the streams, bolt on the crudest simplest HDi front-end, and print off the disks using a cheap DVD press. The price per disc will even be lower than the Blu-ray equivalent. Most businesses would think making 50% in extra revenues for not a lot of extra work is a good thing. Not Hollywood.]]>Nov 14th 2008 3:49PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/
I still laugh at Blu Ray ads in my local paper.]]>Nov 26th 2008 3:27PMhttp://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/http://enghddev.weblogsinc.com/2008/11/13/netflix-no-longer-carrying-hd-dvds-as-of-december-15th/
Toshiba et al were producing players like crazy, and then everyone dumped their inventory when it lost. So, there's tons of players and cheap movies floating around. Most of these people will probably hold off buying BR as long as possible. These are many of the same people BR needed to accelerate toward being THE standard over DVD and competing HD formats, so they can kill off the unprofitable licensing free-for-all that DVD is.

So, the strategy is to kill the usefulness of all the players folks bought. I wouldn't be surprised if those HD-DVDs go straight to the shredder, rather than being sold.
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signatures are okay. a sphincter says what if they say something about it.
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